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Is Truth Still True If You Don’t Accept It?

WEB Notes: This is a really good one to get people to think. I know for years I have seen Christians believe in certain scriptural predictions by men and as the years went on the people morphed and changed their belief structure so those predictions would stay alive and well. With time having ran out for those predictions in some cases, some even continue on with these predictions as if they somehow have to be true.

Now we enter the trump era and we see a huge divide between Christian brothers over their beliefs in a politician. I find this astounding. I have seen several camps. One camp believes God is on trump’s side and anyone who does not see that is blind. Well, we all have opinions, let us all remember that and let us all remember we are Christians first. Bond in Christ and that should be inseparable.

Oxford Dictionaries has named “post-truth” its word of the year for 2016. How fitting.

Oxford says it’s “an adjective defined as ‘relating to or denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief.’

“In the last two months we have witnessed the inability of many to cope with truths they do not want to accept. Many on the left were unable to cope with the unwanted and surprising election results. Their emotions were more important than the harsh reality.

People often talk in relativistic terms of, “Well, that’s your truth, but that’s not necessarily my truth.” But while we may perceive truth in differing ways, truth itself exists, regardless of whether one accepts it or not.

It’s a cliché by now, but well has it been said that we’re all entitled to our own opinions. But we’re not entitled to our own facts.

If you were to take some medicine, it could be lethal if someone had switched the label — even in a “post-truth” culture.

Source: Is Truth Still True If You Don’t Accept It?

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  1. And excuse me, but I’ll go a step further that you might say “for the Elect’s sake:? Well for the elect’s sake even, why were the days cut short? Because something wasn’t seen before them that would happen in the post situation of this age? The Father is omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent. Glory be to God, but then again answer my previous question. If all things were known why would He have had to cut short the tribulation from 7 years to 5 months? Answer that! Okay then brother, don’t try to predict the I know crazy circumstances until they unfold! I’m with you on shorter terms brother! Individuals might look bad but don’t forget the Millennium. Donald Trump isn’t condemned to hell as yet, He still has eyes to see through to the end of the millennium. Does he not? Let’s not be too quick to judge everything! I am just as skeptical as you, but I will never undermine the playbook of our Father’s ultimate end! Please forgive my harshness I look up to you with all respect and admiration!? God Bless!

    • Good evening Todd.

      My discussions have absolutely nothing to do with trump having salvation or not. I have never said anything along those lines. I simply said the man does not stand with God. That is plain as day. He has funded the homosexual agenda, he says it is okay and holds their flag among other things. Then look at who is in his cabinet. It looks like you pointed out one of his family members in another comment of yours as well. My only point, is I have seen huge divisions in the Christian ranks over this man. Not because of Christian beliefs, but due to the fact there are some who do not support him and some who do.

      I will say though we are to judge and we all do it every day. That’s how to stay alive, by making wise decisions and judgement is certainly a part of that. When you go to a bad neighborhood you take precautions. When some people see questionable people on one side of the road, they may choose to go to the other side. There is a difference between me saying this or that person is judged to hell and me using discernment. https://worldeventsandthebible.com/2016/08/bible-question-answer-discussion-8-12-2016#q2

      As for your question. Can we say with 100% certainty God knows what you will do with your free will? He certainly knows what you did in the First Earth Age. This age is more about you making the decision for yourself, without any obstructions in your way. Meaning, you and I make all of our own choices. However, many times in the Bible God said it grieved him for making man in the flesh (Genesis 6:6) because they became so wicked. So that right there tells us to some degree God did not know with 100% certainty what a flesh man would do. He probably thought a bit higher of His kids than what they have done for Him. So God shortening the time was due to Him knowing there was no way His kids would pull it off without His help in a big way. Big subject that would be good for a Q&A.

      I will tell you what Todd. Our Father’s Playbook consists of righteousness and if your team member is not then you might want to question that.

      Good discussion and thank you for the comment. ?

      • Thanks Brandon. That’s what many need to hear!?

      • We should really consider the actions and behavior of the three (3) Hebrew children, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego (Daniel 3)…symbolic of GOD’S ELECT..when they were under a *heathen* ruler of their day, in all of this.

        Timothy 3:16-17 ALL scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

        God *is* in control…He always has and always would be.

      • Thank you for the comment and I certainly agree, but let us understand the whole account for context.

        Daniel made his first stand for his faith and love of our Father by not “defiling himself with the portion of the king’s meat(Daniel 1:8). Daniel made a stand which could have put his life in danger over a piece of meat. Not many of us would do the same. Just a verse later our Father put Daniel in favor of his captors. Daniel made a stand and our Father backed him up.

        In Daniel 2 the king had a dream and the “magicians, and the astrologers, and the sorcerers, and the Chaldeans” (so called wise men, Daniel 2:2) could not tell the king what the dream was about much less interpret it for him which was the request of king Nebuchadnezzar. Because of this the king ordered all of the wise men to be killed and Daniel and the three; Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were counted among the wise men of Babylon.

        As we know, Daniel ‘desired mercies of the God of heaven concerning this secret’ and our Father revealed not only the dream, but the interpretation of it to “Daniel in a night vision” (Daniel 2:18-19). Daniel went before the king and told him the dream and the interpretation of it and king Nebuchadnezzar was so astounded by what he heard that he “made Daniel a great man, and gave him many great gifts, and made him ruler over the whole province of Babylon, and chief of the governors over all the wise men of Babylon” (Daniel 2:48). Of course Daniel lifted up the three; Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego with him (Daniel 2:48-49).

        Even though Daniel and his friends were now in the upper ranks of the government that ruled them they never gave place to the sinful nature of the king, they never embraced it or made an excuse for it.

        In Daniel 3, Nebuchadnezzar would set up an image of gold and he made a decree whenever music was played everyone was supposed to fall down and worship this abomination or face death. The so called wise men of Babylon would essentially rat out Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego for not bowing down and worshipping Nebuchadnezzar’s image of gold and this meant death for them.

        Yet, these men were so bold, courageous and un-bending in faith, though they were brought in front of the king and all of his men they told the king they will not bow down and worship his image. They remained true and strong in the face of a king promoting and tempting them with sin, they would state; “be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up,” (Daniel 3:18). They made a stand for God no matter the cost!

        The king was so upset he heated a furnace seven times hotter than was necessary and demanded they be thrown into it and they were. Yet, ‘the fire had no power on them, nor was an hair of their head singed’ (Daniel 3:27)

        Why?

        Our Father delivered them, He kept them from death though they were thrown right into that furnace making a stand for God. They rebelled against the sin being promoted by the king and for that, God was with them and He will be for those of us who stand with Him as well.

        Additional Reading: The Saints and Their Role in the Tribulation

      • Good examples, thank you Brandon

      • I pray that God’s scripture can help *a little bit* to clear up this Trump discussion. Agreed, Trump does not currently stand with God, so I do not stand with Trump. As a nation, we need to kiss God’s paddle of correction for our nation; a nation which is disobedient and separated from God’s blessings. I’m not saying to kiss Donald Trump (yuck!), but to thank God for giving him to us for correction, and maybe some will see the light of God by using Trump as that paddle.
        2 Thessalonians 3:14
        “And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.”
        2 Thessalonians 3:15
        Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.”
        Thank you Brandon and God Bless, and oh yes, bond in Christ! For we are definitely Christians first.

      • Thank you for the comment Driving for God. As a nation we have certainly swayed away from our Father. With respect to 2 Thes 3:14-15 I see this verse discussing more of the non-believer. Look at the word “disorderly”, it is in the religious and moral sense. Regardless, we do not want to count a non-believer as the enemy, even the “semi-believing” sinner. That is our job to help these folks so we certainly would not want to label them as the enemy. As I just said in another comment, I wonder how many called obama the enemy… All the regulars on this site know I am no fan of obama. I look not at the man, I look at the actions of the man and I look at the Law, both the Bible and our Constitution. If they are not following it then they are certainly an enemy of the people and God. On another level our real enemy is Satan, not flesh and blood (Ephesians 6).

        2 John 1:9-11
        Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

        There are no gray area’s. It is purely black and white. You are either with our Father or you are not. A transgressor is one who breaks the Law.

        10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

        11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

        This verse puts it into perspective a bit. If we wish a transgressor God speed we become a partaker of their evil deeds.

        What does Christ have to say about this subject?

        Matthew 12:30
        30 
        He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

        Black and white, no gray. You are with Christ or you are against Him, plain and simple. Those who are not with Christ actually cause the flock to scatter and we certainly see that and the division Christ discussing taking place in these end times.

        Trump has claimed to be sinless and we know everyone has fallen short of the grace of God and anyone who says otherwise deceives themself (Romans 3:23, 1 John 1:8-10). I am very passionate about people putting on acts, I do not like seeing the people lied to and their faith used against them. Just because someone claims to be a Christian does not make them one. They need to prove it to us by their actions. I see God’s name used in vain constantly and it disgusts me to no end. Two more verse.

        2 Peter 2:20-21
        20 
        For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.

        This verse is saying if someone turns to Jesus Christ and learns the truth and then they fall away from that, they are in deep trouble.

        21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

  2. I don’t disagree with what you’re saying Brandon, but this is one thing that you can post or not post! If you can give me an explanation of why God cut short the tribulation from 7 years to 5 months then you can answer this question as posted? Has this ever crossed your mind as they have mine? In my dreams! Such as how many millions of abortions occur in the world every year? These are the spirit of the unborn that did not get to live their lives of who they were, or were not! In the rebellion of the first heaven age! Do you think God maybe had to change the time line to let these individuals live their lives to the predestined course deprived? And in doing so, you see as is? Do NOT predict between the lines of the unexplained possibilities! Or again I say! Answers my above question! No you can NOT! Day by day brother!

    • I like your question, Todd! Why did Y.H.V.H. change his mind and shorten the tribulation? All he says is that he did it for his elect. My first thinking was that: He changed His plan when He himself took up residency in the flesh: When He personally experienced our walk in this flesh world: So, He decided that He needed to make an adjustment. But then I thought….Why then did Jesus tells us in the book of Revelation (Rev. 11:3) that the two witnesses would be here for a thousand two hundred and threescore days? This later prophesy didn’t make sense to me. Why tell us earlier in the Gospel that the tribulation is shortened; and then, later, after his resurrection, go back and give us His original time line of the tribulation? I’m going to have to think about this one for awhile.
      Again, great question, Todd. I love questions that make me go hmm.

      • Consistency Driving for God. Had He given us a new block of time to deal with it would have brought much confusion to the Word. People would have great difficulty bridging the “new time” with the “old time”. The scriptures would not be cross reference-able in an understandable fashion.

        Even today I see people all over struggle with the entire concept of a shortened Tribulation and how it all breaks down just using the information we have already been given. I answered more of Todd’s question above.

      • Imagine seven long years of Satan beating down God’s Elect, that would be a tough situation even for Job, so I’ll ask a question, why was Christ so upset in matthew 26:39 and the fallowing verses. is he saying more than the words portray ?

      • Love the angle Richard. I want to say we covered this before. The preceding verses are a great example of man not being able to stand during that hour. The disciples were told to stay awake and they kept falling asleep, failing Christ. What an example for us in these end times.

      • Good point Richard. Man in the flesh is weak and needs the saving grace of God. Christ was our example and showed us how to get it done in the flesh, for he was the only perfect one to walk in the flesh.
        Luke 18;27
        “And He said, ‘The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.'”
        This is why it is so important for us to believe, and be sealed, and to have Christ dwell within us!
        1 John 4:13
        “Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us [a fact], because he has given us of his Spirit.”

      • Thank you DFG for the comforting verses. let us keep our lamps full of that Truth and let the light shine.

      • I hear you DFG! It, and a few things have perplexed me deeply. ?? All discussions for the WEB Q&A!

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