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Bible: Question, Answer and Discussion for 02-13-2015

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Question 1:

Name: Jim
Question: Is there a study on the courses of Abia?

Answer:

Name: Brandon T. Ward
Answer: Thank you for the question Jim. We currently do not have a Bible study on the course of Abia. However, Dr. Bullinger has done a great work on this subject and I am going to refer you to that work for now.

Appendix 179 in the Companion Bible
179. Parallel Datings of The Times of Our Lord, Dates of The Begetting, The Nativity, and The Course of Abia

This link will jump you to the specific section concerning the “Course of Abia“.

 

 

Question 2:

Name: Lance
Question: Since God never had a beginning or was never created, then obviously He has always been in existence. Since He created everything and everyone, then all that He created had a beginning. Which to me would indicate there had to be some amount of time that God was alone until He decided to create all that He did. Am I wrong to ponder this? I am not saying I am right or on to something. But it seems to make sense or am I missing something? Thanks for any input on this thought.

Answer:

Name: Brandon T. Ward
Answer: Lance, thank you for the question. I think anytime we think about our Father that is a good thing and I am sure He appreciates it. The thing concerning this subject is time itself. Time truly means nothing to God because He does not age and that is something we cannot wrap our minds around in the flesh because everything around us has a beginning and ending. We know a day with the Lord is as a thousand years to man (2 Peter 3:8).

I am not sure if you realize it or not Lance, but there was an earth age before the one we presently find ourselves in. Before the age of flesh mankind dwelt in their spiritual bodies which are our true bodies. Satan rebelled against God in that earth age and that has brought us into this age of flesh where we have been placed in order to make up our minds who we will follow, God or Satan. We have a couple Bible studies on this topic that I think would be beneficial to you. I am going to leave you with these studies because I think they will help to answer some of what you are asking here.

Additional Reading:
The World That Was, The First Earth Age
Satan’s Sin

 

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9 Comments

  1. He speaks to us in many ways, if we only stop and listen, and hear His voice…And see that Gods fingerprints are everywhere…(Fibonacci sequence, Gods fingerprints, google it and see for yourself)

  2. Fibonacci sequence, golden ratio is a mathematical calculation that identifies God as the great creator. You’ll find that calculation in our DNA,, trees, plants, oceans, galaxies, the way we were created. In everything

  3. Brandon thanks for posting this question about God existing in time and outside of it. This is how I look at it (I taught math and believe math is somehow God’s way of “speaking” to us so to speak). As you probably know there is eternity (which is forever, which just might be a construct without time, or timelessness). Only God exists in timelessness AND also, simultaneously, in time as well. Then you have the mathematical construct called infinity, which is the same as the tangent of a 90 degree angle, and also division by zero (which is considered “undefined”). How I look at it is infinity is the mathematical construct analogous to eternity being the time construct (they are congruent, so to speak). So that while God (who created time when He created the sun, moon, and stars, which dictate the time constructs humanity goes by and the seasons, day/night length and so on) does not need to exist in time, He created time constructs since humans live according to a “time line” from birth to death. So that, when we exist with God in the realm God exists in called Heaven, we will not age anymore and time will cease to have meaning as well for us (and of course the same could be said for those in the Lake of Fire I suppose). Thing is, it is still very hard to wrap the mind around the notion of existing outside of time! But time is a dimension…I wonder if other dimensions such as length and width and height also cease to exist…

    • I never looked at God from a mathematical point of view before or God existing in time and timelessness simultaneously. It kind of makes sense when you think about God giving prophecy not in the sense that He is going to make it happen but in the sense that it has already happened. To do that He would need to be in and out of time. That’s something interesting to think about.

      About the lake of fire. God is the lake of fire, He is a consuming fire. Time will not exist for those in the lake of fire because those people will not exist. They burn into nothing when God returns after the millennium, that day is judgement day, the day everyone gets what is coming to them, good or bad. Hell is the emotional state of someone waiting on the wrong side of the gulf for the day when they know they are going to die and they know they deserve it. God’s shekinah glory, the glow around Him will feel warm and comforting to those who love and follow God, but to those who are about to die it burns them like fat dripping into the fire, the fat burns into smoke and blows away with the wind until there is nothing left. They cease to exist, they will be blotted out of existence and memory.

      I don’t see dimensions such as length and width and height ceasing to exist. Maybe if we were all turned into pure energy or pure spirit. But we will not, we have a spiritual body we are going back to when we are finished with these flesh bodies, those bodies and the universe we live in have a solid form, they have length, width and height. Without those dimensions our bodies would cease to exist, God would go back to what was, before He had a Son and created us. That is not going to happen, God promised us eternal life with Him.

  4. O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! Romans 11:33

  5. Thank you for the response. I have studied with Arnold Murray and learned about the 3 world ages. However it still leaves me with the thought of God actually being alone for some length time. The reason i still think this is because whoever existed with Him in the first and second earth had to be created by Him. Which leads me to believe before He created any soul, cherub or seraphim, He had to be alone until He started to create anything. Again, i’m not saying i’m right, i am simply thinking here. This question has been with me a long time. Thanks again!

  6. Student and Trying

    February 13, 2015 at 6:54 AM

    Lance, I have thought about that a lot myself and I think you are right. God was alone for a long time. Of course these are just my thoughts, there is nothing biblical about this, it is only the way I imagine it. I think that is why Jesus came to be. Christ is His Begotten Son. That means flesh of my flesh, a part of me, offspring, if you have seen the Son you have seen the Father, they share the same Holy Spirit. I think God was very lonely for a very long time so he took a part of Himself and gave it life of its own by sharing His Own Holy Spirit so now we have the Father and the Son, from one body, they are seperate but they are still one, they are of the same body and spirit. Begotten cannot mean anything else. God wants love, a whole family that loves each other, so He created us and the rest is history.

    I can’t even imagine how God became self aware, there couldn’t have been anything to measure time by so how long was it until God gave Himself a Son? Who knows, probably an eternity in its self. The depth of the loneliness He must have suffered before creating life to share His life is unimaginable to me. Why some of His children would turn on Him and hate him for no reason is also unimaginable to me.

    • Thanks for the response. I am glad to know others have thought about this subject as well. It seems to make sense to me that He was alone for some time before all other souls were created

      • When you think about God being alone and lonely for an eternity, it is easy to see why He created all of us and why he loves us. Then to have some of His children turn on Him and hate Him and want Him dead, that must be excruciatingly painful for Him. Now God will have to kill those children who turned on Him, that too must be a dreadfully agonizing thing to do. We, all of us will forget, it will never have happened for us, God says He will remember no more, but I am not sure that means He will forget it ever happened, it probably means something like He will not act on those memories or let them interfere. God may never forget anything; He will have to go through eternity remembering what happened and have to live with and bear that alone, once again. While we will be happy, God will continue to suffer. If you want to do something for God, love Him, let Him know you love Him, let Him know He is not alone. That is what He created you for.

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